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An avalanche buries a three climbers in the area Vignemale

Sunday An avalanche buries a three climbers in the sector Vignemale

Mini bulletin issued on Sunday March 27, 2011 at 20:00 as

Sunday morning, a group of mountaineers climbing to snowshoeing Vignemale leaving the Refuge des Oulettes Gaube when, before reaching the Hourquette d'Ossoue, about 2600m, have broken a plate, triggering an avalanche that has buried 3 of them. Fortunately, his teammates, thanks to the good use of their Arvas and shovels, have managed to get safely to the three. Hope this help us all learn the lesson and not to underestimate the value of the transceiver, shovel & probe as the only means of redemption (before choking the victim) to rescue our own colleagues.

This board can be considered as part of the old plates have been discussing in recent days, remaining present on shaded slopes above 2,200-2.400m which, initially, were sensitive only to strong surges . In this case, the overhead was strong (several pairs together).

Important to note that although this has been triggered avalanche on Sunday, the day on which the risk Notable has increased (3), this board could have also triggered Saturday (with Risk 2) met the criteria for risk 2 announced: Height above 2,400 m, shady slopes (WNW), steep slope ( > 30 °) and strong overload (many climbers clustered).

The risk for tomorrow afternoon and Sunday is superior (3), both snow avalanches (self during the snow) and landslides caused by Peron, steep slopes, even with weak overload (Risk 3).

Send this story to warn of avalanche risk for am Monday, which could reach Notable (3) Strong and (4).

recent snowfall snowy mantle and stability:

Yesterday noon Saturday after rain started coming to the Pyrenees, which took the form of rain to the 2,200-2.400m, humidifying the mantle and causing wet snowfall middle heights. Above that altitude rainfall was in the form of snow.

The snow level has gone down today to the 1,600 m today.

Between Saturday and Sunday have accumulated between 20 and 40 cm over 2200, 2,400 m, having accumulated more in the western Pyrenees and the East.

is expected that during the remainder of the afternoon and evening, to collect between 10 and 20 cm. On Monday

avalanche risk both spontaneous and accidental overloads will be weak, at least, Merit (3).

skies are expected tomorrow well covered in the French Pyrenees. On the English side is expected to clear large sun (except perhaps in the western Pyrenees), which purges encourage spontaneity in the hot sun bathed the rock in snow. We will also have over 2,200 m plates sensitive to overloads weak may trigger avalanches of medium size, able to bury a person.

newsletter is sent weekly nivológico weather and tomorrow, Monday afternoon.

Jorge G ª-Dihinx

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The weather of March 25 to 28: Spring and variable. Sun and some afternoon rain x

THE WEATHER TO COME: SPRING AND VARIABLE. ALTERNATING WITH SOME SUN RAIN X THE AFTERNOON

Saluti a tutti ...

Bulletin issued on Thursday March 24, 2011 at 18:51 hours

General situation and trends: Spring, variable, with a little of everything
The moist flow situation Levante going to move away but we have a small "cold drop" cold pool or height west of Galicia, which will give us still afternoon with clouds and showers weak evolution afternoon. The temperature does not change much, being between fresh and soft. On Saturday respite of sunshine, which will partially damaged in the afternoon with some light rain. Sunday breaks over the Pyrenees, with a variable and then a week later more revolt, with moderate snowfall. Milder weather that Sunday in the rest of Aragon, with sun and clouds and some light rain in the afternoon. The start Sunday night to raise the north wind, heralding the arrival of the cyclone for the next week that will be noticed in Zgza from as early as Monday, with the sun. In the Pyrenees, yet still somewhat variable Monday and Tuesday before the high stability expected later Wednesday. To be confirmed.

FRIDAY 25 MARCH: ARAGON IN CENTRAL cloudy with some rain X THE AFTERNOON. MORE CHANCE IN THE PYRENEES PYRENEES
In sunny day, with some clouds, being in general a good day for mountain skiing. The increased cloudiness in the afternoon, being able to escape any further light rain late afternoon. Temp between soft and fresh. Iso 0 ° to 2,400 m (level Snow 2000m), with temperature in the valleys of 3 / 12 ° C. Winds SW weak, moderate in height.
clear night after In Zaragoza we overcast almost all day. The expected dry morning, but afternoon showers can be weak, being moderate in some areas. The rain would stop after dark. Between soft and fresh Temp: 7 / 17 ° C and light winds from the East.

SATURDAY 26 MARCH: SUNNY, SOME RAINY AFTERNOON WEAK X
Pyrenees In beautiful sunny day, perfect for the do want and temperatures between fresh and soft. Iso 0 ° at 2600m. Temperatures in bays 3 / 14 º C (15 º C Formigal at 1 PM). After noon will gradually forming clouds of evolution, which could give weak afternoon rain, stopping again at dusk. Snow-bound water above 2.200m. The winds will be weak in the south, increasing to moderate at the end of the day. These winds "in crescendo" at dusk and cloudy night announced the arrival of more rain overnight, with snow level down to 1700m.
In Zaragoza beautiful sunny day and mild temp (6 / 21 ° C) with light winds from the SE. Afternoon clouds can form of evolution and can provide some weak shower, stopping then at night. Mid-morning, as in the Pyrenees, they can also light rain.

SUNDAY 27 MARCH: very disordered in the Pyrenees, THAT IMPORTANT EVENING WITH SNOW
In Pyrenees day very messy and difficult to refine. Will have begun to snow this morning at dawn 1.600my very cloudy skies and snow still weak. Although it is very difficult to tune, could subside rainfall at mid-morning and could even open timid clear from mid-morning until noon, then return to close and as at 1 st h in the afternoon back in rainfall, which will intensify in the 2 nd half of day, with moderate or strong, both in the Pyrenees and the Catalan that afternoon. The snow level will dance among the 1,500 at the 1900th dawn to early afternoon. Winds will be moderate throughout the day, being the SW in the morning and gradually veering to the NW end of the day. Increasing the risk of avalanches late Notable (3). May fall between 15 and 30cm depending on the area.
In Zaragoza hopes to one day be variable, but much more lenient than in the Pyrenees. Alternate sun and clouds in the morning, looking much the sun in the middle of the day. By mid-afternoon clouds may come back evolution and give us some faint scattered showers, becoming open to late evening and night being quite clear. Mild temperatures (9 / 20 º C). Variable light winds in the morning, afternoon increasing to moderate W. Good morning gentlemen pedal cyclists. In the evening we arrive back some north wind, to keep that night to give us good morning Monday.

Trend post: Monday and Tuesday sunny and still a little scrambled Aragon in the Pyrenees. Wednesday anticyclone on?
sunny on Monday is expected in almost all Aragon, except the far west of the Pyrenees, where snow may be still weak in the morning, then improving and opening up clear of the sun. Boreas in the Ebro valley Pending
to be finally entering the anticyclone from Wednesday onwards, Tuesday is the last day of transition, still cloudy in the Pyrenees and perhaps weak and continuing snow in the sun Aragon center north wind still soft. Perhaps powerful anticyclone from Wednesday 30 onwards. To be confirmed at next newsletter.


snow and avalanche bulletin for the Aragonese Pyrenees: Manto stable. Limited Risk (2)
Innivation current and recent snowfall: snowy There has been interest from more than 1 week. Before yesterday Tuesday dropped between 5 and 10cm of snow, mainly in the western Pyrenees, with just 1,400 m altitude. As usual this season, the snow depths are more or less suitable for the average at higher elevations above 2,000 m, still below normal in mid and low elevations. With the spring sun melts the snow quickly and the altitude skiing these days is situated above 1,600 m on north side of 1,800-2000m in the sun-facing slopes. The 1,800 m thick in northern slopes are about 30-60cm, beating a 2,200 m underground.
Tomorrow Friday, depending on tonight it is more or less clear, we packed snow in the morning after good rehielo, softened later in the day, expected to more or less sunny. If the rehielo was mediocre maybe just have a weak crust rehielo. In the north slopes above 2,400 m 2,200-we can still find powder snow or snow more or less sales.
snowy mantle Stability: Manto stable. Friday and Saturday, Risk Limited (2) of plates in north slopes above 2,200-2.400m for wet snowfall. Notable Increase in (3) for Sunday
Today we read in the newsletter nivológico of AEMET (which are Risk 3) the following sentence: THE MANTLE IS GENERALLY WELL stabilized, except North Slope of high altitudes, where evolution has been slower.
Well, the thread of the post published few days ago about the interpretation of European Risk Scale Avalanche. I must say that the terms "generally well Manto stabilized" and "Risk 3 " are incompatible. If we estimate Risk 3 can not speak of mantle generally well stabilized, synonymous expression, at best, Risk 2. And I say this because I think very important give at Risk 3, the value (and danger ) that you deserve, so that when you truly Risk 3, take the necessary precautions. Remember that the European Scale Avalanche Risk, Risk 3 is defined as "critical situation"
said, confirming that yes, after not being given significant snowfall since a week ago, the mantle is generally well stabilized. 5-10cm yesterday dropped Tuesday in the western Pyrenees have contributed to destabilizing the mantle below, and only very small plates created shady slopes. These may remain fragile and fall off with overloads weak but giving avalanche of small or very small size. Persist in older plaques north slopes above 2,400 m 2,200-still may get off though usually with strong surges, as would be the passage of several skiers together. As for the risk
natural wet snow avalanche, it will be weak in the early hours of the morning, increasing to Moderate (Risk 2) at noon, could result in wet snowfall very steep face sun that have not yet been purged, they can be small or medium size. Trend
later: similar risk to noon Saturday, increase later in the afternoon
After a Friday night more or less clear, we will again on Saturday at dawn on hard snow slopes to the sun, softened as time progresses. A Saturday afternoon rains can get weak, climbing to 2,200 m altitude, which would increase the risk of wet snow avalanches. It is therefore advisable to finish mid-afternoon activity.
for Sunday, perhaps increasing risk Notable (3), the expected snowfall between weak in the morning and then moderate in the afternoon, with winds from the SW and NW first end of the day. These snow will increase the risk of plaque both by landslides (mainly on slopes E and NE) and fresh snow. According come
quantities of snow, which can be important on Sunday afternoon, the risk for Monday would Notable (3) Strong or (4). the moment this can not be estimated reliably and to be seen how much snow on Sunday afternoon to speak properly. On Monday, if clear sun again give a first drain avalanche at noon. The next newsletter will be issued either late Sunday or during the Monday morning.

NOTE: These are only estimates made with data collected from shelters, nivológicos data public Internet access and personal estimates according to the weather forecast for the next few days. In no way is an accurate prediction but merely a personal estimate. Each group of climbers will be judging the conditions of the mountain at all times and on each side, acting with adequate security.

And these things I tell them Thursday afternoon gentlemen,
that you have a happy weekend! Jorge García-Dihinx

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De Astún to Collaradeta, March 20

Francis, rising to Collaradeta. Neber Pena left behind, with its vertical north wall and soft ski south side

De Astún to Collaradeta

Saturday March 20, 2011

Alex Sola, Javier Fuentes, Francis Cordée 64 and Jorge G ª-Dihinx (and 14 more ...)

This Saturday we wanted to make a beautiful circular, nicknamed "The Crown Astún." A great tour of the heights to which Benede July had brought me a few days. Anticyclone finally came the day before and after the purge avalachosa Friday, Saturday wanted to enjoy this scenic route.
But despite the anticyclone, Saturday we suffered a subtle flow north from France got the Somport all the clouds that, contrary to expectations, jumped over the divide to reach Astún! What a maroon!
At 8 am People began to appear in the parking lot exit. Cars and cars are coming ... Many people! But if we were going to be 5 or 6 at most, no? Total, among which the friend and invite him to the other and beyond, we met 18! We have "Risk 18" for the trip. We will not go very far ...
We left the track that goes towards the peaks paraludes Aronuse and Benoue, skis from the same car. Clouds fast across the divide and we wrap. We have reduced visibility. Will be opened, no? Think. But there still. Occasionally seems to be open and see the sun come up and blue sky, but soon closed again ... We reached the plain
paraludes 1.850my decided to go to the left by the canal that will take us to the first peak of the day, Arnouse, thinking that the sea of \u200b\u200bclouds below us will. Big mistake. As we climb is closing and we just have visibility. We move into a white universe, not just references and north winds becoming increasingly annoying. The GPS brand that we are near the top of Arnouse, but the thing does not look to change. We must make a decision and that is down. Removing skin and return the plain of paraludes. If that does not open, will have to fall back to the car, because all the circular path to wisdom teeth Malacara unthinkable by going blind and so much wind. Bad luck ... Total
that 18 guys changing skins on a sloping hillside are a good statistic for something to happen ... and suddenly shoots off a ski, sliding downhill like a rocket. Ostrasss! Ayyysss!
But not all bad news. Miguel Angel Campos has seen the history of skiing sideways before they disappear into the white world. Skiing is lowered and we see it disappear behind the white world and a few minutes later he returned to skiing in hand! What a guy! What luck! Almost to give us a bad day like we have, having recovered a ski and took for lost! Miqui Thanks! Resolved
this little incident, we started skiing down, telling all and checking visually if no one is left behind in that thick fog that surrounds us. The snow is very good, between hard and somewhat humid, ideal for skiing. Before 10 am and we're back in the car.
"And the day is over? Anything will do, right? Although every area is covered by clouds that jump from France. Umm ...
to see, except in areas open to the north, is now expected on a sunny day across the Pyrenees, no?. Sufficient to go a little south. We must develop a plan B and fast. Already
: We will Villanúa, the area of \u200b\u200bnecklaces. We must change the chip and redone again. The day begins again, but not all. Of the initial group, 4 and get off at Zaragoza. Everyone has obligations of various kinds and make the right decision. The rest we take the car and, after reaching Villanúa, we found no solace there. Without stopping for coffee or anything, we climbed the trail that goes to the Fuente del Paco (who does not need permission as the track of La Trappe). It is 11:30 when we start to walk, with all the heat, the forest path that will lead to the track and then the spathe, the level of Güeys (Ox), where we arrive after 1 hour porterage. Phew, it's hot ... But do you remember the cold we had a few hours in Astún?.
stopped eating and fetch water from the trough. It is now almost 1 pm when we finally started climbing with skis heading east through the valley just north of Punta Spathe and that leads to the hill of Maranhao. The heat takes its toll and continue withdrawing participants. Not make sense that you start to approach the 1 ...
But ... if there is light until 7, no? Nothing, trying to convince one and all to raise, at least, to Somol, which catches close.
continue climbing this large basin called sheepish of Villanúa. Some of them pull the right-hand and will go directly to Somol, while a group of 8 continue north, not yet final destination. It's 3 o'clock when we reached a plateau situated at 2.360m. New stop to eat and drink at the little sun. View the time it is, we set the remaining options: Option A (long), keep climbing to the left (NW) to the Rocks and Collaradeta Neber, both of 2.720m. Option B (short): Turn right (E) and again missing the last 200m to the South Somol and then down to the car. Both options have an equal number of followers and so the group becomes a new split in 2 halves. A group of 4 will go directly to Somol where they meet other 5 that shot for there before. The rest, Alex, Harvey, Francis and I will continue to Neber and Collaradeta.
An hour later, about 4:10 PM, we were top in Neber Peña (2.721m), From there we see below the plateau of Bucuesa ibón already early evening shadows. These shadows begin to lengthen again as if we were in January. We descend the hill that separates Collaradeta (2.729m), to upload later and reached its peak somewhat later than 5 pm. From our 2nd summit of the day we as necklaces and gets the sun glancing on its eastern side. The shadows and the sharpness of the whole atmosphere are winning every minute. Lights turn to winter, despite being on the verge of spring. Collarada dismiss board, which is that it is hard as a rock in the dome end, and begin the descent back to find the southern channel between Neber and Collaradeta. The snow is wet spring rate throughout the basin of South and SW slopes. Enjoy 45 minutes of skiing in these gentle slopes to get back to the Spathe shortly after 6 pm. In 40 min walking around the forest track and path back to the cars. Yet is the sun in the sky. How to lengthen the day ...
After this day of sun and heat so I really remember this day we started this morning in Astún, cold, wind and barely visible. Within km away on the same day we first felt the harsh winter and then the warm spring. This long day in late March allowed us to take two days to one. He gave us a second chance, the option of drawing a good plan B. Then there was the head that had to adapt and see that while we started to approach to 1, the day still held 5 or 6 hours of good business ahead.
Thank you all for the dismissal weather excuse with your smile at all times (even when we did not see anything!).
Thanks Alex, and Francis Harvey for joining all the way to find these beautiful places with the lights of late. White Thanks for waiting. Learn from this lesson "Weather" for future occasions. Jorge

To see the rest of the photos, you can click here

Alpina 1:25.000 Map with the route design (the plan "B"!)

few hours earlier, near Astún, struggled with the clouds that streamed in from France for the Somport. Eventually win them and we would retreat south to Villanúa

A few hours later, here we are going from the spathe, with the bottom

Collarada

Francis photograph the Valle de Tena since the divide and Bucuesa Somol. We were reaching Peña Neber

Views to the plateau of Bucuesa ibón from Peña Neber. The shadow draws perfectly the gap or step is to get down to Bucuesa from Somol. Ummmm ... (For next time)

Alex and Javi, up to Collaradeta Peña, silhouetted

Collaradeta On the back of

Javi, Alex and Francis Collaradeta climbing. Behind the east side of Collarada

Our journey, as seen from the top of Collaradeta

started the decenso from Collaradeta

Alex and Javi , with evening lights

Ready for spinning these valleys and south facing ramps, which at that afternoon type spring snow still kept

Javi Fuentes, in between sun and shade decenso

evening lights adorn our car back to

Alex, Harvey and Francis. Behind
Collarada

Javi in \u200b\u200bthe last ramps down to the Spathe

Javi, Francis, Alex and George, back in the Spathe

Returning through the woods to the car at Fuente del Paco

And Bunting Colorado, this long day is over! Jorge

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European scale avalanches. Interpreting the Portalet

European scale avalanches. Interpretation

European Scale avalanche is currently 5 degrees, ranging from weak (1) to Very Strong (5).

Although the criteria to assign each risk level are written in the scale and should be standard across Europe, there is often disparity between the bulletins read before leaving the mountain. We usually refer to the Pyrenees Meteo France, the Catalan IGC and AEMET . Everyone has their own way of working and developing newsletters.

At the same time, personally attempt to develop a newsletter for the Pyrenees snow basing on data I get from shelters, Internet, weather prediction models, calls to climbers who are on the mountain and through my own experience , if it so happens that I come from being in the mountains.

try to offer a gradation of risk in line with European standards, striving to be rigorous, without pulling upward, so that each level of risk to maintain the attention it deserves.

In line with this, the other day Astún met in one of the guides Jaca, with whom I was talking about it. He has sent me a statistic made in the Aran valley on the percentage of accidents due to the risk avalanches had in recent years. Apparently, the 79% of avalanche accidents were with substantial risk (3) , 14% with Strong Risk (4) and 7% Limited Risk (2).

With this, we can see that the vast majority of accidents occur nuetra Pyrenees with significant risk (3). Personally I think this is because they do not really know the meaning of Risk 3. When we read all too frequently giving Risk 4, as usual frequency should not exceed 1 or 2 days a month, stop scare Risk 3. And we, we try to give more or less stringent newsletters, is when we begin to frighten us.

Next story explaining the European scale avalanches, from the book "Avalanche 3x3" Werner Munter . In this book teaches a method with which, from a strictly local avalanche bulletin, we know what kind of earrings as we tackle the risk is 2, 3 or 4. In

input to carry out his method, you need a reliable newsletter, rigorous, conforming to reality and which does not tend to swell, to rise, the actual risk. For if the risk is fatter "upward" to cover health, that is when the Risk 3 is no longer considered the most dangerous of all.

is interesting to read the lines below and see how often the risks that occur in a normal season in the Swiss Alps. Here goes:

EXPLANATION OF THE EUROPEAN LEVEL AVALANCHE RISK
By Werner Munter

LOW RISK (1):
CONCESSIONAL usually takes 1 / 3 of the season

The snowy mantle is usually seated.

may trigger spontaneous avalanches will be minor, especially if the snow is wet.

Landslides triggered by skiers plate can only occur with significant overloads on steep slopes, especially near ridges and have been newly created vent deposits in high mountain snow.

RISK LIMITED (2): CASE NORMAL
usually takes 1 / 3 of the season
Some locations, directions and altitudes part described by the avalanche, the snowy mantle is only partially stabilized. These specific areas require carefully chosen route.

Skiers can trigger landslides in the event of overloads important (several skiers together.)

In the steep, snowy mantle which is particularly bad, we can not exclude the detachment caused by a single skier. On slopes of this kind can also occur spontaneously isolated landslides, which often increase as they get down (with some exceptions in the spring).

SIGNIFICANT RISK (3): STATE CRITICAL
Dura 1 / 4 of the season (!)
In many places, altitudes in situations and described by the avalanche part, the snowy mantle is moderately or poorly stabilized. isolated Skiers can trigger avalanches on these slopes described.
spontaneous avalanches are common on steep slopes. They can acquire considerable size in some cases and cover areas with little slope. Unchainings may also occur remotely from the base of the slopes.
Sound "Boum" to repeat characterizes the degree of risk . But overlap there is another threat that does not advertise its presence by signs.

excursions in the mountains on skis requires experience and sufficient knowledge of snow and avalanches to be able to choose an optimal route using all the advantages of the field.

When crossing a slope to another, the path of descent should not be steeper than the ascent. It is prudent to continue lowering the footprint and give rise to variants of steepest descent, even if they are shorter.

strong risk (4): HIGH RISK
Usually only lasts a few days a year. (According to Jimmy Oden, + or -1 day a month, maybe 2).
The snowy mantle is weakly stabilized and steep slopes (> 30 º) are dangerous in all orientations. The

spontaneous avalanches may acquire large proportions and cover areas that were reputed to be safe at Risk 3, to extend for large areas of flat land.

remote triggers, even at great distances, are characteristic or even typical of this level of risk.

can no longer speak of calculated risk, so that we can only move moderately sloping terrain on the can access without diagonals (<30º).


STRONG RISK (5): STATE CATASTROPHIC
is exceptional. (As Jimmy Oden, 1 day per season)
avalanches reach the plain. It is recommended not to leave shelters or any other room and wait.

irrigation decreases very quickly in general.

Ni forest roads surrounded by protective trees can be considered a safe place.

Werner Munter

Well, do you think ?
Have you noticed the number of days per season usually there each risks described?

official scale I hope this makes us more knowledgeable about what it means Risk 3 when we see it in bulletins. ( At least, in the newsletters I personally try to send each week, with more or less correctly).

You know nivológicos bulletins are only estimates made from limited data and information (cut by snow guards shelters, special observers, global weather forecasts) and also are regional, not local (Except that developed for the Aran Valley .) Unable to focus in every valley and every particular area, which in a general Risk 3 for the Pyrenees, we risk zones 2 and a few specific areas of Risk 4, if in this particular valley, the wind blew and it snowed more more than others.

nivológicos Newsletters are of general assistance to begin to estimate at home, as we inform the media, how's the mountain and how will qeu behave in the next 24-48 hours. From there, we will develop an initial plan for the weekend and, if anything, a plan B in reserve. Since then the mountain, each group shall be based on assessing the situation observation of the terrain, the mountain of information is giving us every minute and based on personal experience. So try to predict the potential danger or safety of the slopes to cross.

I hope these lines will be of assistance. Good snow at all. Jorge García-

Dihinx

PS: What are steep slopes?

steep slopes usually consider when they have more than 30 º. Very steep if you go from 40 º.

But of course, is not easy to calculate the slope of a hillside "A view." There are several methods, some more complex than others. I commented one of them.
simplifying a bit, we can use two ski poles to try to estimate the steepness of the slope. If we place a vertical dive to the rosette and the other horizontally to touch the snow with the handle (the latter having the rosette of horizontal cane stick touching the vertical axis) we can estimate the inclination is shallow.
The equation for calculating the angle alpha is complex to explain in few lines, but can be simplified as follows. If the horizontal pole that touches the top of the slope less than half the height of the cane vertical, the inclination of the slope is usually about 27 degrees about .

That is, if the horizontal pole does not exceed half the vertical stick, we will be moving on relatively safe ground. If the union of the poles above crosses half the vertical stick, we are approaching a slope greater than 30 and therefore becoming less stable. From there, calculate if the slope is 30 or 35 or 40 degrees possible only having scored the staff (at home) calculating length of the rods and angle alpha, which is more complex (and I know it. But July Beneden, having his staff or "palómetro" marked with the cm of snow depth and the degree of tilt as the height of the vertical pole).
Anyway, for people in general, knowing that the midpoint of the stick would be about 27 degrees, enough to have marked that half of the stick with tape or marking pen, to get an idea of \u200b\u200bthe steepness of the slope on which we operate.
Finally, it is a very simplified and not entirely accurate, but we can give a little more information quickly and easily when assessing the risk from one side to cross over and help us assess whether or not avalanche adopt a protocol: separation of skiers, looking for another path softer, etc. Jorge